What happens when a small crew of “hippie carpenters” grows into a nationally admired, employee-owned company that changes lives, families, and communities? In this inspiring episode, Fletcher sits down with John Abrams, founder of Abrams+Angell, formerly of South Mountain Company, who spent 50+ years proving that business can be both profitable and profoundly people-centered.
John shares how he transitioned his company into a worker cooperative long before employee ownership was common, how that decision transformed culture, turnover, customers, and leadership—and why he believes employee ownership is the path to a more equitable future.
From open-book business practices to “subsidized housing for the rich,” near-collapse during the 2008 recession, and rebuilding with shared sacrifice, John’s story is a masterclass in purpose-driven leadership.
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